Meet Former VP OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, ASHNA AGGARWAL!
Dr. Ashna Aggarwal graduated UCLA in 2022 with a PhD in Geophysics and Space Physics. She studied jet streams on Earth and other planets in Dr. Jonathan Aurnou’s lab.
Ashna is a Senior Associate at the Rocky Mountain Institute, an environmental nonprofit group that uses open-source energy policy models to make the case for decarbonization. We spoke with Ashna about her first year at RMI and how she used the data analysis and science policy skills she developed at UCLA to pivot into her current position.
UCLA SPG: What motivated you to pursue a career at a clean energy nonprofit group?
AA: My work at UCLA was focused on understanding the fundamental physics of what is driving atmospheric processes, and although it was really interesting in terms of analytical work, I felt like my research was a little bit disconnected from society. I started volunteering with the Red Cross in 2020, working on disaster preparedness research and programs for wildfire evacuation sites. Being a part of those programs and volunteering made me really think about climate change, and I felt like there might be a connection between the analytical work I was doing and working in climate change policy, even if it was kind of tenuous. So I wanted to try to bridge that gap, and policy work was the answer for me
UCLA SPG: What policy issues do you work on?
AA: Clean energy policy. There’s a 1:1 ratio between clean energy policy and climate change policy, but I think less about disaster preparedness or how to prepare communities for the impacts of climate change and more about how to shift energy consumption from fossil fuels to clean resources, and therefore reduce emissions in the long term. It’s rewarding because I feel like we are helping communities get on board with our mission of switching away from fossil fuels, but there's also a lot of other great things that will come from that! By reducing emissions, you're also reducing pollution, which is better for public health. And by building out all the clean energy infrastructure that's needed to support these policy goals, you're also adding a lot of jobs.
If we're actually going to meet the US’s emissions targets, a lot of jobs and people are required. At RMI we also think about economic development and how to make people's lives better in this more holistic way. For example, we wrote a report recently about how the Inflation Reduction Act can transform the energy landscape in the US. Because many of the provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act are actually tax credits, it’s not penalizing people for emitting. Instead, it gives states financial incentive to switch to clean technologies. Our analysis found that some red states like Wyoming have so many clean energy resources, like wind potential, that they're actually going to make more money, on average, than blue leaning states.
UCLA SPG: Did you have relevant expertise in these areas prior to starting your position?
AA: Not in particular. Actually, the only experience that I had with clean energy policy was a policy memo that I wrote with other members of the Science Policy Group that was published in the Journal of Science Policy and Governance. We wrote about the potential for different communities in Louisiana to shift to distributed energy resources, like solar resources, which are more flexible and smaller in scale than gas or power plants. One summer in grad school I took a certificate course on science policy through UC Irvine. We had to write a policy memo for that class as well, and I wrote it on water infrastructure in Los Angeles. So I guess I did a little bit of broad climate change policy, but I felt like I really had to learn a lot of things on the floor.
UCLA SPG: What is a typical day for you as a Senior Associate at RMI?
AA: One of the things I love the most about my job is that days are really dynamic, depending on what is happening. I would say, on a typical day, my work is very analytical. Those days I might be doing a lot of data work on the back end, scripting with Python, working in Excel, or modeling. Other days are engaging directly with policymakers, or writing reports or memos.
We have a lot of different programs at RMI. We have some programs that are focused on decarbonizing one sector of the economy. So, for example, we have a team that's focused solely on decarbonizing the transportation sector and thinking about electric vehicles. We also have regional teams that focus on the regional policy that it takes to decarbonize this specific area. I'm on the US program at RMI; we engage with US policymakers through coalitions at the Federal and State level and through research and analysis. Within that program, I sit on the analysis wing of our State policy team so a lot of my days are spent developing open-source models and tools to help state level policymakers make decisions about the best policy pathways to decarbonize their economy. For example, we worked directly with the states of Washington and Colorado to help them figure out a good plan for decarbonizing their economy. To do that, we use a tool that we've developed called the energy policy simulator. It's open source and open access. Another new project I started with our economic development team that I’m very excited about is focusing on how we can make the electric vehicle battery supply chain more robust in the United States. We are thinking about what battery demand looks like in the near term and how to fill those gaps with domestic manufacturing.
UCLA SPG: What is your favorite part of your job?
AA: My favorite aspect of my job is getting to tell policymakers all the benefits of implementing these policies – how it's going to make their constituents’ lives better – and being able to back that up with data. Sometimes the data piece of policy work can be missing; that connection isn't always there. But getting to back up policy recommendations in a very quantitative and data-driven way means we can predict how much investment this policy could drive, how many jobs could come out of this, and the public health benefits.
UCLA SPG: What has surprised you most about your job?
AA: At UCLA I was in a very physics-heavy lab. Switching from that mindset to working with people who are very policy-oriented has definitely been new for me, and I'm learning a lot from people who know a lot more about policy. I think that there's a big opportunity for people who are data-driven and want to make an impact to enter into this field. Collaboration between people who know a lot about legislation, who can pick apart various policies and implementation pathways, and people who are more data-driven is very valuable and productive.
“getting to back up policy recommendations in a very quantitative and data-driven way means we can predict how much investment this policy could drive, how many jobs could come out of this, and the public health benefits.”
-DR. ASHNA AGGARWAL
UCLA SPG: What skills or character traits do you think make you well-suited to your career?
AA: Working at RMI, and I think generally for nonprofits, you get a lot of people who are really mission-driven. We have a lot of people who have really bought into this mission of global decarbonization, and although we have a healthy balance in our lives, you do have to be extremely passionate to think about this stuff almost 24/7. That motivation and passion for our mission definitely makes me well-suited for this career.
On the technical side, the modeling and data analysis that I did for my graduate work at UCLA was extremely valuable. Being able to digest all the data that we put into our models and work with the data in an efficient way was important.
I also think good communication helps a lot in this role; being able to take your results and distill them into something that can be translated for a policymaker is really helpful. You need to be very clear because they don't want to read an academic paper, so you need to strip away all of that deep technical expertise and distill the message to something that resonates with policymakers and my policy-oriented colleagues. It’s all about finding a middle ground that you can both work from.
UCLA SPG: In graduate school, career development often focuses on academic careers. How did you prepare to make the transition out of academia?
AA: I started my job search in the last year of my PhD. I had an idea that I was going to graduate in May to June of 2022, so I started my job hunt around August 2021. I applied to a lot of places and I got a ton of rejections. It was definitely not easy, and it was a little disheartening the first few months that I applied to jobs. But I think that's really normal; you can send your resume out to 30 different places, and you might only hear back from a few. Pivoting from science to policy was challenging because sometimes I'd be overqualified for positions and sometimes people wouldn't see the value in hiring me because I was trying to make such a significant pivot. But I got an interview with RMI, which, out of all the places I applied to, was actually the job that I wanted the most!
For the RMI application, I actually did some data analysis [with their open source data] and attached it as an addendum to my cover letter. If you need to put yourself out there, put yourself out there! Do it in a way that highlights what you know and distinguish yourself somehow. Some other things that helped during the application process were having people proofread my cover letters and application materials, and going to the UCLA Career Center, where they helped me polish my resume.
The interview process was about a month, and consisted of several rounds of interviews. After an introduction call, the second task was actually a take-home exam. We had to take national transportation data, make some State-specific assumptions, and then make policy recommendations based off of what you had just done. My time at UCLA had really prepared me for this exam because I was able to combine my coding and data analysis skills from my PhD and my policy writing skills from Science Policy Group.
UCLA SPG: What is some advice you would give to current graduate or undergraduate students looking to pursue a similar career path?
AA: If you are a student in an unrelated field, start scoping out small steps that you can do to pivot towards the field you want to move into. It doesn't have to be all at once, and it might not happen overnight. Think deeply about what you are interested in and build your resume up slowly. Give yourself some time to make these changes happen; I had a couple of years to take all those steps that I mentioned before I graduated. If you are at UCLA, you have great resources available. I encourage you to join SPG to find some like-minded people and do whatever you can to start engaging with policy now. That way you’ll be able to demonstrate your interest and skills when you start applying to policy-related jobs.
Be persistent if you run into obstacles. Our policy memo was initially rejected from the Journal of Science Policy and Governance, which was really disheartening to me. For anybody who's new to this field, I say keep trying! For me, it took a lot of trying. If something wasn’t working out, I got back up and tried again. Eventually, enough things will work out and you will build your resume. So don't get disheartened.
I had to forge this path on my own, but the Science Policy Group at UCLA helped me a lot. SPG was a great support system for me, and I don't think that I would have gotten this job if I hadn't done the work that I had done at SPG.
UCLA SPG: What’s next for you and your career?
AA: I love my job at RMI and right now I'm enjoying building up my technical expertise and getting to work on a lot of cool projects. I love working on policy and I'm really open-minded about what I could do next, whether that's working as a climate advisor to a governor or being a policymaker myself one day!
UCLA SPG: So, Vote for Ashna?
AA: Maybe one day!